Saturday, November 24, 2007

How to say it, without saying it.

So, Aubrey and I went to hear Rob Bell speak in D.C. on Friday the 23rd. We went up with Susie (sister) on her birthday, Diana (sister in law), Jeff (Di's fiance) and met some of my peeps from York (Luke, Sam, Matt, Randy, Lorena). We ended up running into the infamous Byron Borger and his Hearts and Minds crew who were selling schtuff for Rob.

It would be hard to briefly summarize everything he said in that hour and a half. But I was most fascinated that he was able to talk about grace and atonement without even using the words. He was able to talk about some of the most profound realities without naming them.

Here is a good summary if you'd like to read it. If not, get to one of the shows. If not, get the DVD when it comes out.

PS I saw that someone (a Christian) wrote on their blog that they would not pay for a Christian speaker, so I thought it'd be good to point out that "Net proceeds from the tour will be given to the Turame microfinance project." Check it out!

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thanks Josh for the mention. Leave it to Rob to give away the proceeds. Nice.

Timothy Miller said...

Wouldn't pay for a Christian speaker, huh? Sounds strangely unbiblical.

D.A. Carson said some churches have the attitude, "God you keep him humble and we'll keep him poor."

Yipes!!

Jessica W. said...

That was definitely an amazing talk/lecture/whatever you want to call it. I'm going to post the notes I took that night on here at some point.
When he was asking, "What does your God look like?", I did think of the various atonement theories; in my Christian tradition class, we discussed how they make us view God.
also, it was great to see you and Aubrey there!

Josh Kleinfeld said...

Jess, the more i think about it, the more i realize how he really skirted around the idea of atonement. He talked about sacrifice, but didn't mention the word "sin" once. I think people could fit what he said into their "theories", but I'm not sure that's where he was going with it.

Josh Kleinfeld said...

The more I'm thinking about Rob Bell's teaching, the more I see it fitting with something like Chesterton's Everlasting Man. In it he explores the ancient mythologies and shows how Jesus fits into them but explodes out of them and brings them together.

Tim, yeah...Carson brings it in that quote.